Tuesday, 15 December 2020
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As with anything, more people.. more problems. We're seeing lighter turnout for work day events and it's just not possible to keep the properties sustainable without help brushing and such.

As such, I'd like to discuss a sticker program where you get the sticker when you show up for a trail work day and said sticker is required to join us at some events. Maybe it's just been the rona, or maybe we could use the point program again like we used to do... but we need something to show who's helping... maybe a discounted or extended membership or something...

We're able to open more properties than we can maintain. That's the situation we're in atm.
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I think part of the difficulty might be that not everyone's schedule can line up to make large attendances happen. Instead, can a trail day always incorporate some maintenance on a short section instead of trying to do a lot at once?
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I am in total agreement that there should to be some kind of work to ride program. I understand peoples schedules don't always work out. Maybe we need to have more work days in general or more during the week if that's possible. Or if anyone can't make it to any of the work days then a maybe a pay to play program of sorts. Another idea is to make an ongoing list of things that need to be done on the trails or work list and as people are available to do work on the trails post in the forums that they available and we can get a group of people together to check those things off the list.
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This never worked on the snowmobile side of it that I was involved in, points,discounts for dues, prizes, none of that worked. What did work was one on one participation. I think we need to work through the clubs/chapters At that level. And I know it’s hard to schedule things like this but maybe set aside two or three weekends during the summer no matter where we’re going to do the maintenance set those dates in advance
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That’s always a tough thing. I volunteer and help out because that’s who I am and that’s what I do. It’s in my blood, if its for the club or other events with the community. I get that for other people, it’s not their jam, depending on schedule, other commitments, etc.

What I’ve seen works well, not 100%, cause nothing does, is some type of bonus incentive program. Something that people can earn, or work towards. Stickers, discounts, badges, whatever it is may help those who are on the fence jump in, those who help already, motivate them more. I think the people who have no interest in helping will continue that, s as it just may not be their Jam.

Not sure there is any easy answer, but smaller local chapters hosting may help to. Keep it personal, although again for me, I don’t mind helping wherever I can, be it tigerton or Sinawa.
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Just throwing an idea out here. How about a step up for non-premium members if they complete x amount of work days? So a membership in between that you need to complete to join on rides? Maybe not feasible but worth a conversation.
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I wonder about those that are not physically able to help. There are even physical requirements set out in the event descriptions. I got lucky and was feeling well enough to do this last one, but I still have to be careful what I do or how I move or what I lift. I understand the need to get people volunteering and helping maintain what they are using. I am the type of person compelled to do that, so now I’m worried I’ll feel the need to explain why I don’t have the “helper designation” (in whatever way that is decided). Maybe it’s self centric and nobody cares if I do or not, but I care.
The race club I was in had work requirements, but there are a lot of different jobs to do at a track, so not all of them are physical in nature.
My union has requirements for strike duty. Those that can’t walk the picket line for whatever reason are assigned desk duties.
So I think if you make work days mandatory, there should be other mobility minded options. I don’t know if there are any “behind the scenes“ work available for people?
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I don’t think we need mandatory anything. We just need to make it fun and enjoyable. I think the Glacial Lake work day at Sinawa was awesome. Volunteers working. Volunteers bringing equipment. Volunteers making food to feed volunteers. Smiles, camaraderie, and fun all around. The reward is the bigger picture. Knowing you are creating or maintaining something for so many others to experience and enjoy. Those that make stuff happen know who they are and we know who they are. We get to experience that great feeling when the work is done and we invite everyone to experience that with us.

Give people some chili or pizza. That day or weekend to ride when the work is done. A decal, shirt, or pin.

Mandatory fun days aren’t fun. Voluntold takes the pleasure out of volunteering. The best we can do is make a working party feel like a party.
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I used to belong to a car club that had a 4 day national gathering where people came together from all over the country. We hosted an event in Milwaukee one year and I was the point person for the event because I nominated Milwaukee as the host city. When the location was decided, I had a number of people jump right up and volunteer for all sorts of things to make the event a success. Well, when it came down to it, all those volunteers vanished and I was left holding the bag. I had to plan and execute an event for 100 people by myself. To this day, people in that club still like to point their fingers at me and say things like "Milwaukee wasn't our best year." That was 17 years ago. I guess what I'm trying to say is good volunteers are hard to come by and you will always just have that core group of people you can count on. The best you can do is try to build that core group without burning out those people. I didn't do any trail work days this year and I was aware of them. Unfortunately I had to miss them because of scheduling conflicts. I do feel guilty about missing them but I will still try to do what I can in 2020 by donating, going on rides, buying apparel and promoting RL4WD.

I plan on sticking with this association and eventually becoming a Trail Ambassador as my off-road experience grows and my rig gets built up. I will make every effort to attend any upcoming work days because I feel those days are the best for building relationships and making life-long friends. Hopefully as more people volunteer, more people will begin to see the benefits of volunteering and your core group will grow.

The last thing I want for this association is to start to lose properties like Sinawa because we can't maintain them. If it ever gets to that point, then I think mandatory work days may become a necessity, but I don't think we're there yet.
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Thanks for all your feedback! I'm not really in a place where I can take on more paperwork processing so I know from the association side, that's the #1 reason it won't be mandatory. The chapters may implement something however. I just hate turning down riding properties.

Out of almost 1500 members here, only a few hundred are premium members and fewer still come to events. If we had the chapters diversify events and include social, cruse, gravel road, overlanding, beginner slow speed, advanced slow speed maybe more people would join and more would come to trail days... it's a tall order to make so many events, but spread between 100 Ambassadors, it's doable if we all do a little bit.
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Probably a dumb simple idea but maybe just start out making a post asking what date or dates would work best for people and then select the date from there? Like have the rest of the details planned out, time and location with specific spots on the trails in mind planned out already. Once a bunch of people comment with when would be a good date choose from there and make the event official. know Ryan Woodruff and I try to make the events. I go when we have a sitter and he usually goes even when he has to work the night before. I know not everyone is not physically able to help with trail work as it can be physically demanding. Maybe we can also make a video with a bunch of clips from a work day to show people what it all intails so they know kind of what to expect and can see that it can be a fun day as well. Post it on the site and Facebook. Just some ideas?
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