• Ryan Harden added a new comment in What Are RL4WD's?

    This is a great conversation, thank you all for helping on this by posting your thoughts! Been thinking a lot about this since it's been posted and I like what John said about keeping it simple and the parts about exhaust and how to measure everything.

    The SUV thing didn't sit well for me. If...

    This is a great conversation, thank you all for helping on this by posting your thoughts! Been thinking a lot about this since it's been posted and I like what John said about keeping it simple and the parts about exhaust and how to measure everything.

    The SUV thing didn't sit well for me. If we already measure by clearance (measured by the lowest part of the underbody) why define truck and suv and leave things out? The reason we're defining anything at all is that not all vehicles will fit over obstacles and around corners. That's really it. We define exhaust because noise will close trails especially in residential areas like we have in SEWI.

    So how about defining vehicles as:

    Small (using specs of 2 door suv)
    Medium (using specs for 4 door suv)
    Large (using light truck)
    XL (full sized)

    Sadly, there isn't a more simple way to do this (is there?) unless we cut out some vehicle types. We'd have to post an image or examples as mentioned as well. Has to use dimensions that fit the industry, DNR needs these things defined so if they are issuing the stickers by make and model, they can verify what is what (generally). I didn't want to do inspections as it adds a ton of cost, training, and complexity to the system (and possible gov waste). We have laws in WI for lifts and stuff, didn't want to go past what made them road legal for inspections. If it's not legal to be on the road, it's not legal to take it on the trails. That way is very simple?

    Exhaust - To check exhaust an app does work for very rough numbers that people can check themselves. We have sound meters here at work and most DNR wardens do carry them already. Would it be easy to do 100dB @ 2k RPM @ 45 degrees and 24 inches from tailpipe for trial use? Course we have to test that with some vehicles like mentioned above but you get the idea. This stuff can get VERY technical but it would be best to keep it simple, cut and dry.

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