I believe the mesh network runs in the AMPS 800 or 900 MHz band like the Beartooth units do which is the old cellular network band. Unlike the current 1900 MHz cell bands, these have a longer range bu...
Contrary to the advertising claims of practically all consumer radio manufacturers, under typical conditions 1-2 miles is the most range you can reasonably expect from a consumer grade radio like this...
I just watched the video That looks pretty impressive I'm willing to invest in that for communication just need a few more people to test it out with...
Multiple updates today to the system, some wording for errors and such. Big updates to https://rl4wd.com/directory from yesterday. After annual meeting changes - Pictures and videos will now...
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  •   Ryan Harden commented on this post about 6 hours ago
    Motorola just came out with a Beartooth killer. A $50 radio that does everything the Beartooth unit does and it has 35 MILES of range with the off-grid smartphone/mesh network. That's pretty incredible and I'm a big fan of the Motorola antennas... Motorola just came out with a Beartooth killer. A $50 radio that does everything the Beartooth unit does and it has 35 MILES of range with the off-grid smartphone/mesh network. That's pretty incredible and I'm a big fan of the Motorola antennas and radios so this is darn exciting.

    Here's the video



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    The TALKABOUT T800 allows you to share and track locations with your travel companions. No cell service, no problem. Just download the TALKABOUT App, connect your smartphone via Bluetooth and you now have the ability to locate a friend’s campsite, share your current location and send messages, all while exploring off-grid. You can also control your radio setting from the TALKABOUT app. Skiing, hunting or at a music festival, the T800 has an IPX4 rating and a range of up to 35 miles* to keep you connected no matter where your adventures lead.



    I'm in. I have to test these as it allows the use of map and location sharing off-grid. These can be huge for groups or trail guides when you know where each group is.

    Here's where to get em. https://amzn.to/2qYwtLa
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    • Contrary to the advertising claims of practically all consumer radio manufacturers, under typical conditions 1-2 miles is the most range you can reasoContrary to the advertising claims of practically all consumer radio manufacturers, under typical conditions 1-2 miles is the most range you can reasonably expect from a consumer grade radio like this. Manufacturers commonly make claims of "30 mile range" or more, and this is only achievable when there are no obstructions at all, such as when one person is on a mountaintop talking to someone in a valley below.

      However the bluetooth connectivity to your cellphone makes this radio something interesting. Instead of using the cellular system, it uses the FRS radio. So you could conceivably be able to send text messages and GPS location information, but remember to expect only a few mile range. It would be something fun to try out on our next excursion.

      At the last Camp Sinawa event, Regan was amazed at how far he could communicate to us on the trail while he was driving in. He was on both CB and FRS radio. Remember that there were no leaves on the trees, so there was nothing obstructing our signal. Radio range is dependent on many factors. Just because the box says so, doesn't make it true.
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  • WQell if you get a set and I get a set that's 4 radios we can test out at Sinawa to see how the mesh network does. I'll order mine today then.
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    Proposal - changing defined RL4WD types.
    Need - To better describe what types of trails are built for what vehicles.
    When - ASAP so I can finish the trail siging program.

    This shift is more for trail building over trail use. We want a deverse set of trails and by better designing the types...

    Proposal - changing defined RL4WD types.
    Need - To better describe what types of trails are built for what vehicles.
    When - ASAP so I can finish the trail siging program.

    This shift is more for trail building over trail use. We want a deverse set of trails and by better designing the types of vehicles, we can narrow in on expected vehicle types.

    The problem this year was when we had the light trucks at the homestead. This caused a bunch of damage to the trails and we don't want that to continue. HOWEVER, a lot of the trails we scouted for public use would be just fine rolling a full-sized truck on them. If approved, this would then re-value the directory so people could search not only the types of trails but also the recommended vehicle types.

    Here's the draft -

    The Road Legal 4WD Association defines different types of vehicles based on how trails are built. Because there are so many different types of RL4WDs on the market, we've classified the vehicles to aid drives to reduce the risk of trail and vehicle damage along with keeping trail users safe.

    We're building these specs to identify what vehicles fit on regular and slow speed trails. Please carefully consider the common specs over the max specs as trails are designed with the common specs in mind. Even if your vehicle fits within these common specs, vehicle, and trail damage can still result without proper knowledge and training. Trail guides have the right to refuse trail access to any vehicle or driver even if the vehicle meets the defined specifications.

    Exhaust - All RL4WDs must have a muffler with the spark arrester in it to prevent forest fires. Exhaust must meet legal sound requirements. If a vehicle is too loud for trail use, trail guides have the right to refuse entry. Vehicle noise is an important aspect of keeping trails. Many times, if people can't see us or hear us, we simply don't exist, and that's a good thing.

    2 Door SUV - The 2 door sport utility vehicle (SUV) is the smallest of the 4x4s out on the trails. Their narrow wheelbase and tight turning radius are excellent for narrow, one-way trails. While the vehicle doesn't have to have only 2 doors or be an SUV, it needs to adhere to the following dimensions.

    Specs: Road-legal within your State/Providence.
    Common Specs - Under 72in (229cm) wide, 140in (432cm) long.
    Max Specs - The vehicle is to be under 90in (229cm) wide, 170in (432cm) long.

    4 Door SUV - The 4 door SUV is usually longer and heavier than the 2 Doors. It will feature a wider turning radius and may be more difficult to maneuver through tight trails.

    Common Specs - Under 75in (229cm) wide, 180in (432cm) long.
    Max Specs: Road-legal within your State/Providence and being under 90" (229cm) wide and 190" (483cm) long.

    Light Truck - The light truck is the 2nd largest of the trail vehicles we make trails for. It typically won't fit around corners designed for the SUVs without body or trail damage. Light truck trails will usually be much wider and have a thicker trail base to accommodate the added weight of the vehicle.

    Max Specs: Road-legal within your State/Providence and being under 90" (229cm) wide and 250" (635cm) long.

    Full Size - The Ful Size RL4WD is the longest and heaviest defined for trail use.

    Max Specs: Road-legal within your State/Providence. Max allowed Road-legal width within your State/Providence. Max allowed length without a trailer within your State/Providence.



    RL4WD Clearance Levels

    Clearance levels are used to determine what level obstacle can generally be crossed. This is only a guide and is not a definitive answer to what vehicles can traverse what level trails.

    Low Clearance - Defined as vehicles with 15in (38cm) or less of underbody clearance. Usually acceptable up to level 3 obstacles before trail or vehicle damage is common.

    Mid Clearance - Defined as vehicles with 16in (40cm) to 25in (63cm) of underbody clearance. Usually acceptable up to level 6 obstacles before trail or vehicle damage is common.

    High Clearance - Defined as vehicles with 26in (66cm) to 40in (101cm) of underbody clearance. Usually acceptable up to level 8 obstacles before trail or vehicle damage is common.

    Max Clearance - Defined as vehicles with more than 40in (101cm) of underbody clearance. Usually acceptable up to level 10 obstacles before trail or vehicle damage is common.

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