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Void where prohibited. The survey is run by the Wisconsin DNR and is not affiliated with Wrangler Riders in any way. We do not see survey results or who sent them in. Wrangler Riders is simply trying to help the DNR get more input on public land...
Void where prohibited. The survey is run by the Wisconsin DNR and is not affiliated with Wrangler Riders in any way. We do not see survey results or who sent them in. Wrangler Riders is simply trying to help the DNR get more input on public land use. We have the right to cancel this promotion if the DNR or our sponsors request it. Responses to this promotion do not sign you up for anything. Your post will be a public response, please do not post inappropriate responses or they will be removed. You do not have to be a member of Wrangler Riders to win the $50 giveaway.

Responses must be on the original post on https://www.facebook.com/wranglerriders/ as we can't see shared responses in private messages or social media groups.

Responses will be numbered and then a winner will be picked on random.org on Jan 3rd. and announced.

From - Win $50* ROA Final Push! We hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas! This is a reminder that the Recreational Opportunity Analysis is ending for the Southern Gateways Region and the Lower Lake Michigan Coastal Region. Please be sure to fill out the brief surveys for each region expressing you'd like to see more Road Legal 4WD trails and parks in Wisconsin. Here are the links to the surveys - https://dnr.wi.gov/topic/Lands/RecAnalysis/

We've been working with several departments and local land managers to expand RL4WD trails in Wisconsin for 2018. Be sure to like and follow this page for important news regarding trail development in Wisconsin.

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Be sure to post your reply on the original post only on this page, not shared posts (https://www.facebook.com/wranglerriders/posts/775417095965137/) as we can't see all the shared posts in private groups we're not part of. You do not have to be a paid member of Wrangler Riders to partake in this free giveaway. You can respond twice, once for each region. Please respond with "Completed Southern Gateways Region" and Completed Lower Lake Michigan Coastal Region" in two separate posts.

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Tonight we met with WOHVA and W4WD and it was a great brainstorming session. They liked the concept of the RLTV but we came up with RL4WD instead. The limits we have up are a good starting point for that being the definition. In order to...
Tonight we met with WOHVA and W4WD and it was a great brainstorming session. They liked the concept of the RLTV but we came up with RL4WD instead. The limits we have up are a good starting point for that being the definition. In order to legislate a RL4WD platform that would fund parks and trails, we need a central voice to back it. It sounds like we can't combine our groups for a number of reasons to make one central voice BUT we could make the Road Legal Four Wheel Drive Council where all our groups come together for this common goal.

We also agreed on trying to come up with a universal trail marking system we can all use.

To give value, we talk about mapping and events.

We may also do some surveys for riders / drivers and land managers.
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Wanted to inform you all on some of the work I've been doing with AAA to define what vehicle modifications would make a vehicle ineligible for coverage. Some of you had sent me information to quote your lifted wranglers and I researched what...
Wanted to inform you all on some of the work I've been doing with AAA to define what vehicle modifications would make a vehicle ineligible for coverage. Some of you had sent me information to quote your lifted wranglers and I researched what carriers cover these things on and off road. Digging into carrier policies it looks to be a huge gray area as to what is or isn't covered. This is scary because if someone thinks they have coverage on their lifted wrangler but then they make a claim and the adjuster denies the coverage because the vehicle doesn't meet the definitions of the "stock vehicle" and the insured could be SOL.

What I'm attempting to do is better define coverage for AAA so that we have a better idea of what's covered and what isn't without it just being a "gray area" where you'll find out if coverage is there or not at the time you try and make a claim. It's amazing to me that there is little defined coverage for non-pavement use, so much so that carriers may be picking up more exposure than needed but also confusion in that a person thinks coverage is there but isn't.

What we want coverage for:

Road exposures / claims. Just because you have a legally lifted Wrangler, doesn't mean coverage should be negated.
Equipment coverage (stuff that could be stolen) if purchased based on dollar value.
Trail riding collision (accidents between vehicles based on driver error, not obstacle related)

What we don't want coverage for:

Off-Road racing or structured events where there are flags dropped or prizes given.(which is usually excluded already by most)
Intense Use Coverage such as mud and water claims. If you're going to bury a $50k Wrangler in mud then try and claim water damage for instance.

As it stands, there are too many misconceptions between the insurance carriers and the insureds. This puts a lot of risk on the agents and insureds because we think there is coverage when, there may not be. Underwriting and claims wording usually isn't clearly defined on things like this so an adjuster can make a decision as to what is covered and what isn't. That's fine, that's not likely to change BUT from the sales and service standpoint, I need better clarity to inform people that "ok if you do this, coverage is not likely" but "if this happens" coverage would be likely. The major problem I'm seeing with everything I've researched is that there is no "Ok if you're going to go wheeling, here's what's likely going to be covered and here's what isn't." kinds stuff.

These are major questions I'm trying to get answered for us so overall, I can inform people as a motorsports insurance agent on the good, bad and ugly.
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So this is pretty cool https://www.beartooth.com/ and has a 5 mile talk and 10 mile text reach. It's off network but offers all the functions of mapping, communication and phone. Lots of range, small footprint so we wouldn't have to carry

http...
So this is pretty cool https://www.beartooth.com/ and has a 5 mile talk and 10 mile text reach. It's off network but offers all the functions of mapping, communication and phone. Lots of range, small footprint so we wouldn't have to carry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5bdnqd4xk

Install looks easy and wow it's feature packed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5poZuA4XGA

Some Q and A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od1qsxvfYv0
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What are the things we want to track pertaining to achievements? Each renewal period, we'll then put these badges on the back of the membership card and make a sticker for each badge that can be put on your Wrangler.

Right now we have:
New...
What are the things we want to track pertaining to achievements? Each renewal period, we'll then put these badges on the back of the membership card and make a sticker for each badge that can be put on your Wrangler.

Right now we have:
New Member - When you confirm your account, this badge pops up on your account.

I'll likely turn off the other badges that come stock in the program.

Was thinking about:
First Event Badge - Attended first event
Elder Badge - Those that pass the Elder workshop and are able to help at events
CPR Badge - Provided valid credentials that are unexpired for the current year
Chainsaw Badge - Provide federal credentials that are unexpired for the current year
Recovery Badge - Provided to those who take our recovery workshop and the Elder signs off that they demonstrated proficiency in the skills.
Tire Badge - Provided to those who take the basic maintenance workshop and the Elder signs off that they demonstrated proficiency in the skills.
Communication Badge - Provided to those who pass their HAM radio license
Crawling Badge - Those that take and demonstrate the proper skills in our crawling workshop
Water Crossing Badge - Those that take and demonstrate the proper skills in our water crossing workshop
Meeting Master Badge - Those that attend 20 meetings for their local chapters and provide sign off sheet for said meetings
5 Year Member - Been a paid member for 5 consecutive years
10 Year Member - Been a paid member for 10 consecutive years
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The lowdown of the points system is to encourage people to participate, not just join Wrangler Riders.

Benefits -
See reputation of members who actually do things
Earn invites to leadership roles such as trail guides, elders and to run...
The lowdown of the points system is to encourage people to participate, not just join Wrangler Riders.

Benefits -
See reputation of members who actually do things
Earn invites to leadership roles such as trail guides, elders and to run chapters.
Receive discounts on memberships
Receive discounts at events
Earn physical and digital awards
Have access to our rank shops and swag you can't get any other way

Can anyone think of any other "thing" that the points can be used for?
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